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Feature Article


Determine Your Time Frame For Trading

by Van K. Tharp, Ph.D.

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How active do you want to be in the market? What is your time frame for trading? Do you want to have a very long-term outlook, probably making a change in your portfolio only once a quarter? Do you want to be a stock trader who holds positions for a year or longer? Do you want to be a long-term futures trader whose positions last one to six months? Do you want to be a swing trader who might make several trades each day with none lasting more than a few days? Or do you want the ultimate in action—being a day trader who makes 3 to 10 trades each day that are closed by the end of the day so that you have no overnight risk?

Table 4.1 shows the advantages and disadvantages of long-term trading. Long-term trading or investing is simple. It requires little time each day and has minimal psychological pressures each day — especially if you take advantage of your free time to work or spend time with your hobbies. You can typically use a fairly simple system and still make a lot of money if you adequately size your positions.

I think the primary advantage of long-term trading or investing is that you have an infinite profit opportunity (theoretically at least) on each position in the market. When you study many of the people who’have gotten rich through investments, you’ll find that in many instances wealth builds up because people have bought many stocks and just held on to them.4 One of the stocks turns out to be a gold mine — turning an investment of a few thousand dollars into millions over a 10- to 20-year period.

The Advantages and Disadvantages of Long-Term Trading

Advantages Disadvantages
No need to watch the market all day—you can use stops or options to protect yourself. You can be whipsawed by intraday market moves each day.
Psychological pressure of the market is lowest in this type of system. You can have large equity swings on a single position.
Transaction costs are low. You must be patient.
It only takes one or two trades to make your whole year profitable. It usually has a reliability (number of winning trades) of less than 50 percent.
You could have an expectancy (see Chapter 7) well over a dollar per dollar risked. Trades tend to be infrequent, so you must capitalize by trading many markets.
You can use a simple methodology to make a lot of money. It requires a lot of money to participate if you want to trade big liquid markets.
You theoretically have an infinite profit opportunity with each trade or investment. If you miss one good trading opportunity, it can turn a winning year into a losing year.
Costs of data and equipment are minimal.  

The primary disadvantage of long-term trading or investing is that you must be patient. For example, you might not get a lot of opportunities, so you must wait for them to come along. In addition, once you’re in a position, you must go through fairly extensive equity swings (although you can design something that minimizes them) and have the patience to wait them out. Another disadvantage of longer-term trading is that you generally need more money to participate. If you don’t have enough money, then you cannot adequately size your positions in a portfolio. In fact, many people lose money in the markets simply because they don’t have enough money to practice the type of trading or investing that they are doing.

Shorter-term trading (which might be anything from day trading to swing trading of one to five days) has different advantages and disadvantages. These are illustrated in Table 4.2. Read through the list and then compare it with the long-term table. Once you’ve done so, you can then decide for yourself what best fits your personality.

The Advantages and Disadvantages of Short-Term Trading

Advantages Disadvantages
Most day traders get many opportunities each day. Transaction costs are still high and can add up each day. For example, in my own active account, transaction costs for last year amounted to about 20 percent of the initial value of the account.
This type of trading is very exciting and stimulating. Excitement usually has nothing to do with making money — it’s a psychological need!
If you have a methodology with an expectancy of 50 cents or more per dollar risked, you may never have a losing month—or even week. Profits are limited by time, so you may need to have a reliability well over 50 percent to make money. However, I’ve seen some notable exceptions to this rule of thumb.
You don’t have overnight risk in day trading, so there is little or no margin required even in big markets. Data costs are very high because most short-term traders need live quotes.
High-probability entry systems, which most people want, work with short-term trading. Many high-probability entries can have losses that are bigger than the gains.
There’s always another opportunity to make money. Short-term systems are subject to the random noise of the markets.
Transaction costs have come down so significantly that they are no longer prohibitive. The short-term psychological pressures are intense.

I once met a short-term foreign-exchange trader who made about six trades a day. No trade would last more than a day or two. However, the fascinating thing about what he was doing was that his gains and losses were about equal and he made money on 75 percent of his trades. This is a fantastic trading methodology. He had $500,000 to trade with and a $10 million credit line with a bank. When you understand position sizing, as discussed later in this book, you’ll realize that this system comes as close to the Holy Grail as anything in existence. He could easily make a hundred million each year with that system and the capital he has.5

However, that’s not the case with most short-term systems. Most of them seldom have a reliability much higher than 60 percent, and their gains are usually smaller than their losses — sometimes even leading to a negative expectancy.6 Sometimes one big loss can ruin the whole system and psychologically devastate the trader. In addition, the psychological pressures of short-term trading are intense. I’ve had people call me who say something like this:

I make money almost every day, and I haven’t had a losing week in almost two years. At least until now. Yesterday, I gave back all the profits I had made over the last two years.

Keep that in mind before you decide that short-term trading is for you. Your profits are limited. Your transaction costs are high. Most importantly, the psychological pressures could destroy you. Nevertheless, my belief is that the largest profit percentages are made by active short-term traders who really have their psychology together. I’ve seen short-term traders who could make as much as 50 percent or more per month (on small amounts of money such as a $50,000 account) when they were very in tune with the market and themselves.

Excerpted from 2nd ed 2007 McGraw Hill, Van Tharp



  1. These people may have purchased a dozen low-capitalization stocks. Eleven may turn out to be worthless, while one turns into a new giant. Because the stocks were largely ignored, the owner neither gets rid of the losers before they become worthless nor finds out about the winner until it is worth a lot of money.
  2. Somehow fate is often cruel to people with such a great system. In this person’s case, he could not trade size. Nor was it possible for him to fix his problem psychologically because he did not believe that he had anything to do with the problem. In fact, at this point, he cannot trade at all because he’s nervous and he believes that his stomach is stopping him from trading. Thus, in my opinion, he doesn’t understand the real meaning behind a Holy Grail system — finding yourself in the market.
  3. One of my clients has developed a day-trading system based on gains being significantly larger than losses. His system has a reliability rate of less than 50 percent, yet it nets him tremendous rates of return. This shows that there are other ways to conceive of short-term systems.

About the Author: Trading coach, and author, Dr. Van K. Tharp is widely recognized for his best-selling books and his outstanding Peak Performance Home Study program—a highly regarded classic that is suitable for all levels of traders and investors. You can learn more about Van Tharp www.vantharp.com.


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Participating in the Oneness Awakening Course is an extraordinary opportunity to benefit from some of the important journeys Dr. Tharp has taken to transform his life.

This course has become a fundamental tool in VTI's mission to help his clients succeed. Attend to learn how you can become more aware, positive, calm, centered, and successful.

Many years ago, after using a number of various psychological and coaching techniques, I decided that I was only going to use those that made a significant impact and had lasting changes. My experience was that only psychological techniques that included some sort of spiritual resource seemed to make this level of change possible. The concept of “spiritual resource” was independent of any particular faith. All that was important to me was that the technique allowed you to join with some spiritual resources. Once I discovered the Oneness Awakening material I knew this was the significant breakthrough material I wanted to share with others.

At the Oneness Awakening Workshops, two things have caught my attention. First, the visible and incredible transformations of some of the attendees inspire me deeply. Second, it really allows me to see how willing people are to stretch themselves out of their self-defined box and really examine the conscious and subconscious beliefs that run their lives. For this reason, I use this workshop, in addition to the Peak Performance 101 workshop, to assess people who are interested in joining the Super Trader program. The first part of the Super Trader program is psychology work and the highest level of psychological work is that of spiritual awakening.

So while this is not a trading workshop, it has a great impact on trading because it opens a path for traders to become "one" with the market and accurately sense what the market is doing in the present moment. This allows traders to trade with more clarity and assurance.

I hope you will join me in September for this event. Priced at $495 it is a true value. —Van K. Tharp

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Trading Tip


What Top Market Caps Tell Us — Cool Chart Alert

by D. R. Barton, Jr.

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First, the markets are still in their sideways box that I highlighted in the last few weeks. This unprecedented volatility contraction will end eventually, perhaps by price grinding to the upside or perhaps by a violent, brief move to the downside. For now, however, add five more days to our already historic “lack of movement”:

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Instead of digging into more ways to show narrow volatility, this week I’ll share a really cool chart that caught my eye and then we’ll discuss the implications of said chart.

A Short History of Market Capitalization

Much like grade school kids, we’re fascinated by the extremes — the largest and the smallest things. Want to get a room full of kids talking? Have them chat about animals that are big (elephants – largest land animal, Great Dane — tallest dog, blue whale — largest animal ever).

When one thinks of market cap, usually you are trying to understand one of two extremes as well. How small a company is - is it a penny stock? At the other extreme, we may look at one of the world’s giants as in, “With the price of oil down, I wonder how much Exxon’s market cap has slipped?”

It’s little wonder that stock watchers keep their eyes on the biggest companies.

Today we’re going to take a brief walk through the largest companies by market cap. Jeff Desjardins over at visualcapitalist.com put together a truly interesting chart done so well that it explains itself:

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One clear conclusion we can draw — since the last iteration in 2011, tech has conquered all (for now). Shoot — in 2011, #5 Facebook wasn’t even a publically traded company!

Here’s another conclusion from the land of the obvious: oil company market caps are certainly influenced by the price of oil. To that latter point, let’s look at one quick chart:

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Perhaps not as cool as Desjardins’ chart — but this chart informs nonetheless. It would be interesting to see how many oil companies were in the top 5 in 2008 – 2009. With almost all other companies beaten down by the Global Financial Crisis and Great Recession, it’s safe to guess that there were more than three oil companies in the top 5. Ah — but that’s research for another day.

So What?

Some may quibble over minor points (like the fact that Amazon is much more of a retailer than a tech company), but regardless, the market cap metric is important in this way — it tells what investors value most. Desjardins’ chart above shows how institutions and retail investors have voted with their cash - and what they have voted over the last 15 years has varied. Or as they say, the times — they are a changin’.

Have you heard though that this time, things really are different? (Maybe you also heard that in a previous cycle?) As tempting as that may sound, it is hard to see how this landscape will change much in the next year or two. Beyond that, however, online technologies will start to mature, markets will become saturated and internet growth will eventually slow.

If there’s one thing we can say with any certainty, it’s this — the market cap chart will change again in time.

For all you aspiring futurists out there — please send me your thoughts on what types of companies will be on this list 5 and 10 years from now. With enough ideas, I’ll write a follow-up article and include your best ideas. When you send your note, please include your geographic location and whether I can use your last name or not.

Please send your thoughts and comments to drbarton “at” vantharp.com — I always appreciate hearing from you!

Great Trading,
D. R.

About the Author: A passion for the systematic approach to the markets and lifelong love of teaching and learning have propelled D.R. Barton, Jr. to the top of the investment and trading arena. He is a regularly featured analyst on Fox Business’ Varney & Co. TV show (catch him most Thursdays between 12:30 and 12:45), on Bloomberg Radio Taking Stock and MarketWatch’s Money Life Show. He is also a frequent guest analyst on CNBC’s Closing Bell, WTOP News Radio in Washington, D.C., and has been a guest on China Central Television — America and Canada’s Business News Network. His articles have appeared on SmartMoney.com MarketWatch.com and Financial Advisor magazine. You may contact D.R. at "drbarton" at "vantharp.com".

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